Curse

=HT=Ingram · Dec 09, 2007, 06:55 PM // 18:55

thats what I am saying. beyond Lions arch its empty cause its easily skippable... Sanctum Cay is normally the next destination for most players anymore. I mean really who wants to do anything in magamun Its so easy over there you can almost 2 man it. And certainly can 3 man it with heroes.

The desert is quality but rarely are there people doing the mission, Just farming.

And Fire islands is ok but in all reality once you did it once, And or got to the camp there is little reason to continue on. Embler light camp being the only really useful stop on the fire islands for easy unlock all core skills.

IDK. there are so much better things to do then some of the easily skippable missions In Prophecies. and I'm sorry but all the quests and crap in NF and Factions is what ruined the game for most people. Being able to go anywhere you wanted too at any time is what made Prophecies a hit to begin with.

I do not care if someone runs, I dont care if someone gets run. I do care that the so called runner exploits a n00b and tells them something untrue. Which is common. That the droknars run is the only way to get to the place. FALSE! Anyways. Thats all I was meaning. its not a hard game. and takes little time to do. people saying its hard is just being silly. go play the game for a while and you will find out its not hard at all...

Chronos the Defiler · Dec 09, 2007, 07:28 PM // 19:28

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Originally Posted by =HT=Ingram

Being able to go anywhere you wanted too at any time is what made Prophecies a hit to begin with.

Lol i finally see now! Prophecies success was due to the fact everyone could skip content!

Iirc, back when GW was beginning there were more people doing the actual missions and going through the game rather than being run everywhere because they wanted to skip it.

lishi · Dec 09, 2007, 07:58 PM // 19:58

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Originally Posted by =HT=Ingram

thats what I am saying. beyond Lions arch its empty cause its easily skippable... Sanctum Cay is normally the next destination for most players anymore. I mean really who wants to do anything in magamun Its so easy over there you can almost 2 man it. And certainly can 3 man it with heroes.

The desert is quality but rarely are there people doing the mission, Just farming.

And Fire islands is ok but in all reality once you did it once, And or got to the camp there is little reason to continue on. Embler light camp being the only really useful stop on the fire islands for easy unlock all core skills.

IDK. there are so much better things to do then some of the easily skippable missions In Prophecies. and I'm sorry but all the quests and crap in NF and Factions is what ruined the game for most people. Being able to go anywhere you wanted too at any time is what made Prophecies a hit to begin with.

I do not care if someone runs, I dont care if someone gets run. I do care that the so called runner exploits a n00b and tells them something untrue. Which is common. That the droknars run is the only way to get to the place. FALSE! Anyways. Thats all I was meaning. its not a hard game. and takes little time to do. people saying its hard is just being silly. go play the game for a while and you will find out its not hard at all...

The fact the mission between the 2 places are the most boring in gw dont help

Clarissa F · Dec 09, 2007, 09:23 PM // 21:23

The time thing has been shot down, as has the "need" factor.

Basically, there are few people that only have Prophecies. Most at least have the three main games. Probably 99% of those on the forums do. Basically, the only REAL reason to cry about the Drok's Run is because you hate to make a running build yourself, and instead of paying a guy or getting a decent guildie to do the run....because you are LAZY....you want to be able to just skip along to Drok's to get armor for its looks. If you have Factions or Nightfall, that is the ONLY reason you could want the run easy.

If you only have Prophecies, the only reason, if you are honest, is to get better armor than the game was designed to fight, at that point. Is it OK with you that we increase the imps en route to Lion's arch to level 18, to compensate for the 20-30 point armor bonus you have? I didn't think so.

Well, now you can drag your wimp dear self to the store, get EotN, and go to Boreal Station for max armor at lvl 10. Have fun!

VinnyRidira · Dec 09, 2007, 09:42 PM // 21:42

For all those that are anti running, why don't you just petition ANet to drop all the running skills. Good luck to those people who do running as an enterprise, I would suggest not making the runs harder or easier. I originally took a run from Beacon's perch to Droknar's Armor but not for the armour, already had max armour in Kaineng. And completing levelling up is great in Kaineng.

Skyy High · Dec 09, 2007, 09:49 PM // 21:49

1. Running skills are not, and were probably not intended to be, solely for the use of runners to get past enemies. There's plenty of strategic advantages for being able to move faster than normal.

2. Removing running skills doesn't remove runners from the game; it just makes them slower. A 55 monk can crawl through any run with ice imps at 90% slower than walking; people will still pay him, because he'll get there eventually.

Mr_Cynical · Dec 09, 2007, 10:52 PM // 22:52

If you've got time to farm 75k for Elite Druid's armor, you've got time to work out a way of fighting through Frozen Forest. On that point, I hero/henched my way to Marhan's Grotto from Thunderhead Keep. On a Warrior. OK I had a bit of an advantage in Platemail armour, but even so...

EDIT: Just realised your main complaint was against the difficulty of the Droks' Run. Are you serious? Ever since the release of Nightfall Vow of Silence dervs have been doing it for about 2k a person because it's relatively straightforward (certainly compared to the old Wammo and R/Mo runs). Either get a guildie Derv to run you, or pay the 2k, problem solved!

HayesA · Dec 09, 2007, 11:33 PM // 23:33

The first time I had my guild mates run me. It was fun, we only died 2 or 3 times.

Although now that I have more experience with playing this silly game, I bet I could easily run it on my Ele for pete's sake! :O

Nuclfus · Dec 09, 2007, 11:41 PM // 23:41

I learned to run Droks (first as D/A, then switched to D/P) back when it still seemed to be fairly hard, but even back then once you knew what to expect from all the mobs on the way it was just a routine like farming or grinding. Then they nerfed chiblains so it could no longer strip VoS. Believe me, if anything the Droks run now is too easy.

MithranArkanere · Dec 10, 2007, 12:23 AM // 00:23

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Originally Posted by VinnyRidira

For all those that are anti running, why don't you just petition ANet to drop all the running skills. Good luck to those people who do running as an enterprise, I would suggest not making the runs harder or easier. I originally took a run from Beacon's perch to Droknar's Armor but not for the armour, already had max armour in Kaineng. And completing levelling up is great in Kaineng.

Maybe running to skip missions in not suppoted. But runnin IS part of the game.
Flag and shrine runners are an example

Neo Nugget · Dec 10, 2007, 12:29 AM // 00:29

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Originally Posted by MithranArkanere

Maybe running to skip missions in not suppoted. But runnin IS part of the game.
Flag and shrine runners are an example

Right, they even mention quickly running to exit gates in the GW:EN PcGamer issue. (no idea why they nerfed HoS)

Age · Dec 10, 2007, 02:15 AM // 02:15

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Originally Posted by MithranArkanere

Running to skip missions is not supported by Anet. Do not removing the option is just a courtesy from Anet.

An unnecesary courtesy, by the way.

The problem with Prophecies is that IT IS EMPTY. It gets almost empty after Lion's Arch and completely empty after The Dragon's Lair. If Prophecies where 8-Player level 20 enemies from Lion's Arch, had challenges, some more quests and final Credits area with endgame green weapons (Shinning Blade set, for example) all this would be solved. Every mission should have an explorable version, with the elites you can capture in the mission, so people do not have to capture inside the mission. Ever explorable should have at least 3 quests that take place in there...

Prophecies also need 'primary quests required' changes to the missions. Travel anywhere by walking in the maps, but if you want to make a misison, you have to make the previous primary quests and missions.

I'd also close the southern door in in Beacon's Perch and put a dwarf that does not allow to pass anyone that hasn't been in Droknar's Forge.

It also needs reasons to go to places other than to get Carthographer. New quests or Treasures or something. In the other campaigns, after beating all missions and quests, you have at almost 80% of the map. In Prophecies you barely go over 60%.

I agree whole heartedly as you should be level 20 by the time you get to LA and then get ascended.I am not sure about the door though.

You can't see me · Dec 10, 2007, 02:31 AM // 02:31

There's just no reason that prophecies should have the running option in the first place. I'd like to see an update where running would be null in that campaign. People don't apreciate Prophecies because they skip 3/4's of it and complain it was too long. You have to actually READ the book to enjoy it, FYI.

As for repeat characters, yes, it gets a tad redundant, but who says you always have to start in prophecies? Unless you only own that campaign, in which case, I'd suggest buying factions for $20 at your local game seller on sale.

pumpkin pie · Dec 10, 2007, 02:59 AM // 02:59

lonar's pass = gate in cantha = rank 5 reputation in GWEN

i like it there.

/not sign

if they fix that so that players can get high armor fast, they why not fix so that old character can get survivor as well?

1 up and 2 down · Dec 10, 2007, 05:25 AM // 05:25

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Originally Posted by Tender Wolf

Wow, I can't believe no one wants this changed...I thought I'd have a lot of supporters, but apparently not. I will point out that I was merely trying to help and don't appreciate getting told about not making paragraphs...and that my friend isn't a good runner. She does southern Shiverpeaks tours all the time, it's just been a while. And how can people NOT want max armor? It's for protection...OMG...

Welcome to GWG....

Enjoy your stay.

Age · Dec 10, 2007, 05:53 AM // 05:53

Running in GW is some what small business as there is nothing wrong with it.Lets look at it another way if you want gain entrance to the UW and FoW.You must complete every mission with bonus as well as do all Prophecy quests and gain a minimum exp. of 2500.You could drop that amount of exp if running was stopped in GW or got harder.You can make more money by farming in the UW or FoW than Running or just plain farming in good areas.

They haven't done anything to stop groups of from farming in the UW or FoW a few nerfs as well as other areas Slayers Exile anyone Glints Challenge.You see there is no difference but if they imposed this on farmers to say on runners most would think differently at this Oh you must gain GMC to access the UW and FoW.There is an entrance to the UW in Lornar's Pass what if that was the only place to enter it by and the same could be said about the FoW.

In otherwords move that whole elite area out of ToA and into Lornar's Pass.

arsie · Dec 10, 2007, 06:04 AM // 06:04

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Originally Posted by Saraphim

Why are there 4 threads in a row with "Fix !" in them from the same person?

Maybe he/she wants a job at Anet.

Cebe · Dec 10, 2007, 08:36 AM // 08:36

NOTE TO POSTERS

Could all posters please take note of the Sardelac Sanitarium sticky which asks users to not simply post "/signed". Any attempt to by-pass the 12 character limit will lead to post deletion.

Repeat offenders will be noted.

ThienThan · Dec 10, 2007, 03:41 PM // 15:41

Uhmm.. no....sorry and no no no!!! HA Ha ha....!!! Oh so why dont you suggest that if a character have been to Drok, there will be a hidden path where no mob exist appear? Isn't that make it much easier? HA Ha ha.....!!! Beside, Anet did not make the whole mission step by step for nothing. It's all the hardwork there, appreciate it please!

/100x notsign

Shadow Spirit · Dec 10, 2007, 03:55 PM // 15:55

/Notsigned

The Droks run is obsolete anyway. Much easier to get a run to LA and go to Kaineng. And now max armor is available in Boreal Station...